dm
3:04 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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And I agree that any suggestion of giving Gibraltar to Spain against the wishes of the residents there is utterly absurd.
I don't know much about Max Hastings, but I think much less of him now.
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dm
2:59 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Arsene
I wasn't aware of that.
Hastings isn't usually on my radar tbh.
But I did find he echoed my view that for the first five years or so Blair was a good pm. But even before 9/11 happened I did express the view that I didn't like the way he seemed too keen to jump into bed with George Bush. And as I said before, after his 2nd GE victory with a huge majority he became arrogant, as Thatcher did before him and Johnson is now.
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arsegrapes
2:41 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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dm 1:45 Tue Jan 4. I wouldn't listen to the weasel that is Max Hastings, blokes obviously like Blair on the EU Soros payroll, just 6 months ago he said we should hand Gibraltar back to Spain, ignoring the fact that Gibraltarians have always voted overwhelmingly to remain British.
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WHU(Exeter)
12:30 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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On a more basic level...a bloke walks into a shop, pockets a few things without paying and walks out. He's seen by half a dozen fellow shoppers. If subsequently questioned on the matter the bloke said "i didn't do it", would that chane the mind of the half dozen that had seen him commit the act?
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WHU(Exeter)
12:24 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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If a country did not admit to a war crime, but it was considered and accepted as a war crime by most of the international community, then what difference would it make whether that country admitted it or not? (aside from being a welcome admittance from the point of view of those the crime had been commited against)?
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threesixty
12:12 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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WHU
How is it irrelevant whether a country admits to war crimes?
Are you crazy?
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WHU(Exeter)
11:26 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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360, I'd rather we conducted our business without worrying too much about what America would think.
And whether any country admits to things or not is often irrelevant. It's how it's perceived not whether it's admitted.
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Norman
11:16 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Was the best PM for a long time but his legacy will always be Iraq! He should be tried for War Crimes
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Side of Ham
11:11 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Shut up 360 their version of giving out awards to the fellow elite is the Oscars ceremony…..
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threesixty
10:44 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Good point, they are afterall the blueprint for how a country should conduct itself on the international stage.”
No, they are just not stupid enough to enter into an actual “virtue signalling” blood letting event that would actually harm their country for decades. Especially as no other country would admit the barbaric crap they get up to anyway.
It is a very stupid thing to do. Very stupid.
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WHU(Exeter)
10:20 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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The Americans would laugh at us?
Good point, they are afterall the blueprint for how a country should conduct itself on the international stage.
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threesixty
7:15 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Funny how over the last few years being “principled” has only ever been applied by the British public when its attacking Mr Blair!
They dont seem to care about that when it comes to anything else… funny that!
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Darby_
3:23 Wed Jan 5
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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It’s called having principles and a sense of honour, 360, two concepts that Blairites might be unfamiliar with.
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mashed in maryland
10:24 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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"Tony Blair deserves a knighthood for destroying the world because not knighting him would make him look guilty in front of all the other monsters" is probably the most neocon take I've ever read on the internet.
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threesixty
10:03 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Also, has anyone thought that if you were to strip Blair of his knighthood because of Iraq you would be saying to the international community that the UK itself is at fault and liable for war crimes.
Maybe that's true, but on the whole that would be a ridiculous position to put the UK in. The Americans would just laugh at us. Proper cucks.
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HAMMERNH
6:56 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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These petitions count for nothing. 1.2m signed one to "End child food poverty – no child should be going hungry" and more children are going hungry now than ever even with Marcus Rashford’s help.
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Lertie Button
6:55 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Two points when you see the sort of clowns who have been knighted, Blair will fit in fine, at least he has many positives on his CV compared to some
Also he has only got the honour to allow the rest of the past PMs to get theirs, a fucking bunch of geniuses they are.
But one thing we can never forgive Blair for and we stand United with her royal Highness on this one is the war crime of cancelling the royal yacht Britannia, fucking unforgivable
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joyo
6:40 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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More than 600k now signed the petition
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New Jersey
2:28 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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I don't think the introduction of Academies into education is particularly a political thing, both Labour and Conservative governments have been happy to support the policy.
There are some really shit academies and some very good ones, it really depends on the quality of the Headteacher and the culture they install in the school. You usually find the successful schools, academies or otherwise, don't take any shit from the students or their winey parents.
In terms of Education Secretarys, you couldn't get any worse than Micheal Gove, he was obsessed with A levels and couldn't understand the concept of added value, he thought that students in an inner city comprehesive with high social deprivation etc should be on a par with students from Eton, no surprise really as he was privately educated.
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dm
2:09 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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While it's true that IDS was Conservative leader in the early 2000s, Hague was the party leader in the 2001 General Election. So had the Conservatives been in power in 2003, it would have been Hague who would have been Prime Minister
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threesixty
2:09 Tue Jan 4
Re: Sir Tony Blair
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Has there been any British PM that hasn’t got blood on their hands?
Every PM has been offered a knighthood. You can’t just treat Blair differently now unless you're prepared to change the protocol completely and reassess all our leaders based on our modern understanding of what is good or bad.
It’s just a bit weak really. We are all part of a country that has done both good and barbaric things and we are all partly to blame for what it does as we vote and have the power to rebel if the majority don’t like what is done. I think we forget that.
Anyway, He won 3 elections. Saved people in the Balkan’s and dealt with Northern Ireland. Yes he fucked Iraq but Churchill starved a load of Indians didn’t he? You can’t use Iraq as an excuse to not give him a knighthood otherwise we should strip all the others right?
And apparently he’s already turned down 2 offers and this one is actually from the queen. Unless everyone wants to have a go at her as well… madness.
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